Reports on New Age Discoveries Resulting From Most Cautious Research


The reincarnate Mother has long been working and praying for the return of “The Child” of this Age who had to be “caught up” for His protection long ago. The greatest problems of I DO-ers” is making the “Called” understand enough to be “Chosen,” and then hoping they will unite with a pledge to use their talents for His work. When there are enough who understand sufficiently when others will “run for the mountains and hide,” because they won’t understand what happened, it will be possible for “the second advent” of The child of this Age who was with us more than thirty years ago. He will be SEEN in the skies as we have declared many times. He will first look like The Christ Child, progressing to the “apparition” the whole world will recognize for what He was to them. Some of us who knew HIM as “The Child” of this Age, will see Him that way. Others who need the beard and robe “apparition” will “SEE HIM AS HE IS” to them. Buddhists will recognize Him for what He was to them. Hindi will SEE Him as He was known to them. The Occult world will recognize Him as Kuthumi, the Jews as the Messiah, and so on for all cults and creeds who have known Him in some incarnation. The “keep unspotted” admonition of Jesus was for protection so a planned life work would not be interrupted like that which happened when Jesus was recognized as the Son of God.

QUESTION: If you folks have access to soul genealogies as you claim, and seem to be so sure that reincarnation is a fact, then can you tell me who David McKay, the now deceased Mormon President was? I need to know if he was David of the Bible records.

ANSWER: It is our understanding that many Mormons would like to have that answer, even if they are not sure reincarnation is a fact. No, David O. McKay was not David of Biblical times. Joseph Smith was the same soul as David, who used a sling-shot to kill the Giant (Lucifer) of his day, who arranged for killing him when he was Joseph Smith. He was also Daniel of the Lion’s Den story. The list of his services to God is a very long one. He was always there with the Saints whenever there was Truth to again restore. He is reincarnate now carrying on where he left off in the last life which Mormons know nothing about yet. In case the next question about Joseph Smith would be asking if he was the Joseph of the time of Jesus, we will answer it before asked. He was not, but was more closely related to Jesus and his mission than Joseph was. Those who can tap “Akashic” records of souls, can double check that information with Cosmic TV showing past incarnations on present bodies. That soul’s mission is far greater in the present incarnation than in any other of the past when serving God. We would like to tell that story, but we couldn’t expect anyone but a third-degree esoteric of highest initiation and soul development to believe what we could say. This is where TRUTH is far “stranger than fiction.”

QUESTION: We have been strong Christian Scientists who were not taught about reincarnation. But the subject someway seems to be so real and most interesting to us. Could you tell us if Mary Baker Eddy was reincarnated and whom she was in another life if she had been here before?

ANSWER: We do not make effort to find the reincarnation of souls who were not close to us in other lives. We haven’t the information about Mrs. Eddy’s incarnations. There is evidence that she had more than average soul development or she couldn’t have accomplished so much for others ready for her level of advanced ideas. Because of the work of “I DO” in the incarnation when she knew Mary Baker Eddy, was too advanced for Mrs. Eddy, there were differences which would separate us in the present lives. We don’t know if Mrs. Eddy has reincarnated at this time, but would feel that she certainly could have been sent back to stand by for some part of His work when Christ returns, even if she taught that He would never return to this dimension, or perhaps believed she would not return. She must have been very surprised to discover on the other side of life, that someone she denounced because of misunderstandings was much more right than she was. The one she denounced never said a word against her, because that one knew “to each is given” so one could be misunderstood by another.

QUESTION: What would be expected of someone going to one of your “I DO” Centers?

ANSWER: In the first place, at this time (1970) the “I DO” Centers have all been united in Magic Valley, in and near Twin Falls, Idaho. Since “the great Unifier is calling for Unity” this is what became necessary. Students who for some reason were unable to move here when the Centers were closed elsewhere, are expected to follow as soon as possible, hoping that will be by the time “The Child” is returned to this dimension. Some of them are “about the Father’s business” wherever necessary. These will come to Idaho “I DO” Center when His “second advent” of this Age makes it imperative for His protection. They will help with the influx of many expected to come this way after they realize that “I DO” really has been Chosen for the lead-out work of helping The Messiah with the problems foreseen when an unprepared world get a great surprise which will need much explanation.

QUESTION: Has “I DO” heard about the idea of a father offering to suffer the labor at the birth of a child? Is there anything in it? Can that be done and what do you think about it?

ANSWER: First we can see the amusing part of it. It is the best birth control method we have heard about. There would surely be fewer babies if that idea was used more frequently. Yes, we’ve heard about the idea which is rarely practiced for obvious reasons. God gave man free-will and if he wants to “will” it that way there is nothing to stop it. However, there are some fathers who don’t try to “will” it who seem to suffer as much as the mother when a baby is being born. These are the sensitive fathers who really care, the ones with real love. Sometimes there is such deep devotion, love and concern that a physical condition develops from the mental attitude, making it possible for a husband to suffer along with any pain of his wife, whether of labor or something else. We have heard of this in reverse where the wife suffers the pains of her husband. The same condition sometimes exists between two persons related other than by marriage. From our “I DO” research and observations we have some doubts about such a rapport being God’s will. We believe those who suffer another’s pain should have some pertinent information which only third degree esoterics might be able to understand. The condition borders on the use of extrasensory perceptions which need to be trained along right lines, or those of this type of sensitivity may fall victims of mental-malpractices they would have no way to recognize without more than average understandings. If the situation was encouraged to any great extent the human “will” being used would open the back door of consciousness to the negative faction. Self hypnosis and other detrimental conditions could arise from ignorance of God’s Will about such things.

QUESTION: We would like a discussion on the “I DO” thinking about birth defects. Your slants on all human problems are refreshingly different and most interesting. Would you mind giving some new ideas to think about?

ANSWER: What you call “refreshingly new ideas” are sometimes as old as the Master of Wisdom who originated them. In the light of right ideas about reincarnation for soul growth, and karmas made either for good or bad results when paying the indebtedness to The Creator, is certainly not a new idea, but a very potent one. Perhaps the foolish ideas impressed on religious converts to hold them under the iron spells of dominating church fathers, frightening followers by telling them they would return as a worm or something of a pestilence if not paying into coffers, is the conception held by many who have not heard anything else on the idea of reincarnation. After a soul is individualized, and especially after he is “on the path” of understanding what life is all about, and how souls are processed toward perfection and “eternal life,” he becomes increasingly more responsible for his mistakes. But never, never does he come back less than in human form, however distorted that form may be due to karmas done against the soul, for which that soul must suffer until purified by a better habit of thinking. “As a man thinketh so is he,” and it could be added, “so will he be until he changes his thinking, either here or hereafter.”

Knowing full well how God’s business is run by Sainted souls of higher precepts, and that soul records are kept in “The Book of Life” spoken of in Scriptures, “I DO” know that no soul would be allowed to inhabit an imperfect body unless karmas of some kind arranged a condition demanding such punishment so former mistakes would never be made again. If a personality in the third dimension were to abort an unborn child, he could be expected to suffer abortion shocks and limitation for his soul when trying to reincarnate. If he was the cause of mutilation of others in a former life, he could be expected to suffer a mutilated form himself until the soul was sufficiently purified that it would never commit such a sin in another life. Because of evidence our research has provided, we are very certain that regardless of what efforts scientists make to avoid malformed bodies, only those suffering the abortive sins of prospective parents could be relieved of whatever malformations they suffer. Parents of malformed children suffer a great deal and whether they know it or not, they are either paying a karmic debt or helping a loved one to do so. Jesus was asked if the diseased child was suffering for sins of his parents or his own sin. This is because people of that Age understood reincarnation and how karmas must be paid until a soul was purified. Our readers will surely remember when Jesus once said “this cometh not out except by much prayer and fasting” when he failed to heal someone expecting it. His meant that the soul would have to suffer until the thinking was changed, “lest a worse thing come upon you” as HE once warned.

God’s ways are not fanatical, unreasonable, nor far-fetched blind faith, with human hopes of escaping without paying a debt. His laws were made when the world was made, and everything created comes under the “law” of God. When “Truth makes free” it will be learned all law was not given by Moses as some now mistakenly believe. Moses, like many other great religious leaders and God-fearing souls, was at times deceived by a voice declaring to be “the lord” but not identifying which “lord.” A lord was a leader, and there were “lords many,” all directing whatever souls they could reach. If the soul was attuned with the Positive Source, the messages were constructive, if the attunement was with the negative, the information was deceptive and favored the opposing faction.

QUESTION: You “I DO” people talk about negative forces and the power on both sides as if you don’t know what the Scriptures declare that “all power belongs to God.” So how could there be a negative power?

ANSWER: We are glad you brought that one up, because we would love to put you straight. Yes, we know that the Scriptures declare that “all power belongs to God.” But what you don’t know is that even though all power belongs to God, His power was divided into “three heads,” Michael, Gabriel and Lucifer, who are the souls of the “Blessed Trinity.” The “waster of power” was Lucifer who “Fell” for that reason. More mortals found it much to their human advantage to do wrong, therefore generating power through wrong-doing which strengthens EVE-il and helps the activities of “one-third stars of heaven pulled by the tail of the great dragon.” One cannot dissipate evil just by denying it or refusing to admit its existence. We must do something constructive to generate sufficient good (God) power and get enough understanding to overthrow evils being instigated by the unrighteous who would otherwise claim the lead.

QUESTION: Why do most of the pictures of Christ show Him naked, when all others are clothed, at least a little?

ANSWER: The idea is symbolize the fact that He is usually “naked” of helpers who understand sufficiently to help where needed. The “I DO” are dedicated to helping find and process laborers so they will understand “His ways” so HE need so longer be naked of help imperative to make His Advent possible. Some young boys from Pakistan, whom Allah had sent to “I DO,” left our location while seeking work. The Christ Child “appeared” to them naked and begged for a return.

QUESTION: We note the “I DO” claim that a woman who was recognized as the reincarnate EVE served as a “Super Deceiver” or puppet in the flesh used by Lucifer in this Last Age. We have a booklet written by James C. Hollenbeck who declares that a certain Prince Abdul Baraba Baha was the most powerful deceiver encountered in all his much research, and that he had the power to change his features from a man of “Fierce Countenance” to “One who may deceive the very Elect.” From reading the booklet about this man with all the “false Power” and “earmarks of sin,” we wonder if “I DO” could be wrong about the personality you declare was the great deceiver’s physical plane counterpart?

ANSWER: “I DO” have never been proved wrong yet and we are not wrong in this case. Mr. Hollenbeck just had not met the “great deceiver” whom we mention. We have the booklet you mention and know that whatever evil powers functioned through the powerfully evil man mentioned, he still wasn’t the top devil for this Age. Also Mr. Hollenbeck seems not to have enough esoteric information to properly evaluate his findings. The “feature change” isn’t done by the WILL of the personality it happens to, but by the WILL of Those Above. Anytime “angels in charge” of all human affairs wish to identify a soul reincarnated for a specific purpose, they bring forth a picture of the past incarnations of that personality. They also identify both good and bad souls this way. Anything showing as a projection on the features is only a picture of a past incarnation. All of the one-third stars of heaven made bad karmas by serving their Master of deceptions. When the Akashic records of their past lives are shown, the pictured replicas are such that one wishes to turn the head in disgust and run in fear. Likewise when Those Above wish us to recognize “The Great of the earth without whom there would be no life in that day,” who are also reincarnate at this time, past incarnations are also projected on their features. We who have witnessed this Cosmic TV realize that it is not by the WILL of the personality, but a provision of God who marks them so we can recognize good souls and stay clear of the evil ones. To shorten our discussion, let us tell you that there have been over fifty souls of “Cosmic Powers” reincarnate on earth in this Last Age. The man you mention is of the “one-third stars” who incarnated to serve Lucifer. It is only the “one-third stars of heaven pulled by the tail of the great dragon” who flaunt (waste) powers they earned in better lives of the past when some of them were even thought of as Saints. When greater souls (Maha) began to follow “the super deceiver” their Cosmic Powers degenerated to evil because of serving the Luciferian purposes. After Lucifer’s Cosmic Power was revoked in 1955, all other negative souls, like this Baha man, found their “god is dead.” Without his backing, one by one they have found their own powers revoked because of abuse. Many have had to leave this plane because they were unable to function the cause they incarnated to support. The man you mention is only one of many professing to be the reincarnate Christ, or even God as this man of great illusion dared to declare, fulfilling a prophecy of “christs many” who “would pull fire down from heaven to prove they are of God, yet they are not.”

You did not mention the raising of the dead, starting a fire just by looking at a pile of brush, nor ask us about many other powers Mr. Hollenbeck told about this “man of sin.” We believe our readers would like to have us discuss how such things could happen if a man was actually of “sin.” “The works that I do ye shall do also,” Jesus promised. He knew that every soul has been “created equal” with the right to grow the soul where it is rewarded with “cosmic power” or trusted with God power. The “one-third stars of heaven” all earned Cosmic Powers at some time. It is the abuse of God power which makes it Devil power as we have declared before. “Cosmic Power” includes power over matter, space and time, and even the ability to restore life to the dead. Our readers must be informed that even though a soul once earned the power to do these things, unless done “IN HIS NAME” without a show-off impression for the SELF, they are revoked sooner or later. The story of raising the dead man after four days like this Baha man demonstrated, should be explained. The man he raised was a very evil soul who had gone to the hells of his own making. When he “came forth” he was crying and begging not to be sent back where he had been, proving he was an evil soul who had fallen into a lower dimension. When good souls return from the dead, all accounts our research have found proved they would rather have stayed in the lovely place which proves the reward of a good soul. Only a Positive Master Mind could raise good souls, but seldom would do it because they are better off when free of this dimension. An evil Master Mind might raise an evil soul from hell. “I DO” have witnessed a soul who had more power than all the magicians ever known, who after doing much evil, experienced a “thus far” halt like is also happening to the others of misuse of Cosmic Power, making the world much safer each time one of the black magicians leaves this dimension.

QUESTION: Because of the things “I DO” tell about Joseph Smith and your ideas about reincarnation, could you be trying to tell us that Joseph Fielding Smith, President of the Mormon Church is the reincarnate Joseph of the early Latter Day Saints?

ANSWER: While we admit to honoring both men in reports of our findings, we in no way intended to give the impression that the President of the Mormon Church is the reincarnate Joseph Smith. They are closely related souls, many times having high positions in Christ’s work with numerous religions in many lives we know about. In the present lives they each have a different mission, although soon will be quite closely related in what they will accomplish In His Name within that Great Institution more rightly called Church of Latter Day Saints. The original Mormons were “reincarnate Saints” of a “Latter Day.” They have reincarnated again now to be on hand when Christ comes to unite all under His banner of TRUTH TO MAKE FREE. He will make all cults and creeds realize that originally all of them incorporated the true Principles of God which in many instances have become diffused with mortal concepts, or revised to read as the negative faction always did after infiltrating institutions and appropriating rights belonging to souls approved of God.

QUESTION: Would your “I DO” have any information which would help Mormons find the two plates Moroni took away?

ANSWER: We have much information which the Mormons really need and will give it when they are ready to receive it. The original plates with records made by Michael and Gabriel concerning “Truth to Make Free” are not available to anyone. Original records from which those plates were made are in the possession of THOSE whom Christ gave that information. Our organization makes the information available to any who qualify to receive it. “I DO” was chosen by Christ who followed and explained what HE led her to find all over the world. These are the records which were on the plates that the negative faction destroyed. The Leader of Latter Day Saints has reincarnated several times since he was known as Joseph Smith. “I DO,” like Joseph Smith, in every life was closely identified with the work of Christ. Mormons have only the genealogies of material bodies they possessed while serving The King of Kings, but “I DO” have the higher plane genealogies necessary to identify a soul in many other forms reincarnated to carry on after one personality martyred a Cause which had to be concealed under a new banner in order to continue serving God’s purpose on the physical plane. This was the way they kept the admonition of Jesus, “go into all the world and preach the gospel and keep unspotted.” After having earned “eternal life” great sainted souls are entrusted with power over matter, space and time which includes the right to plan lives of services on earth, as well as functioning simultaneously on all other planes of consciousness. If records were destroyed one time, they would reincarnate to return them in another life. They functioned in both male and female bodies. When God wants us to recognize them in new bodies He puts what “I DO” call Cosmic TV on their features to prove the identity of past lives. In our TRUTH papers we have discussed this provision for identification from different angles while trying to help others find what we have discovered. We would very much like to help the great Positive Religions find their reincarnate Leaders who served God in channeling the TRUTHS incorporated in their original Organizations. Some who were men long ago are now women, and some who were women “Saints” of old are now men. All at sometime, in some life received what Mormons call “The Priesthood.” This is equal to understandings of high initiations in various cults and creeds. The marking to prove the status of a soul are done in symbolism on the foreheads of those who earned whatever status shown. If having earned higher soul positions by services to Lucifer they are given what the Bible calls “the mark of the beast.” Even this is done in various ways on the physical forms to identify evil souls so the Positive faction can avoid them in this Atomic Age when it was promised that the Chosen of God would be given advantage over the negative faction. Just as evil souls have been “marked” to identify them so have good souls been rewarded with symbolisms used to identify the Positive faction. The general misunderstanding is that only evil souls will be “marked in the forehead,” but this is only the ignorance of the uninformed about “God’s ways,” which are “past finding out” unless a soul has earned a right to that information and can be trusted to use it properly.

QUESTION: What has “I DO” to reveal about “the pill”?

ANSWER: Anything which disturbs the normal functioning of the body is against the Law of God who made bodies and the rules by which they function. “The pill” is only one of man’s many ways to try to get around the Law of God regarding the right usage of sex. There really is no way to escape the laws made to govern the universe when it was created. The human form of life is the only type which tries to break god’s “will” and the only living creature which has intelligence enough to know right from wrong. He was therefore made subject to karmas for breaking Cosmic Law, a necessary provision for some measure of control over the “free-will” and “dominion” advantages of mankind.

Further growth through right understandings will eventually bring forth an even more spiritual human being whose conception will be entirely mental. This type will be a much more highly intellectual personality of greater God consciousness who cannot be classed as Mortal. When totally “mind-born” he will also finally be freed of death as we know it today. These will be souls who earned “eternal life” and will then be able to return to earth without having to struggle through mortal birth and death as the “Saints” have been forced to do if they reincarnated at all.

“The pill” is putting future incarnations under the control of mortals, instead of leaving the planning to “angels who have charge” of bringing back our loved ones. Also it will limit great souls who need to be reincarnated in the right positions. Usually it is people of more means, with better minds and bodies, who take advantage of birth controls the poor and underprivileged cannot afford. Man who was “given dominion” is not using that advantage very wisely when it comes to human reproduction. In animal breeding he is very careful to reproduce from the very best of whatever species, keeping blood lines pure and eliminating misfits. But for mankind we have wars which come ever so often when the best of human species are selected for the front lines. Where God’s laws are survival of the fittest to keep all other forms of life developing, man destroys the best and does everything benevolently possible to save even the most unfit of the human kind. He also mixes the races God divided for better advantage and soul growth.

Now comes the pill to further disrupt natural processes of human reproduction, which in the long run cannot do other than bring disaster. It is believed that older women will be surprised with pregnancy after there seems to be no more need of caution. An older body cannot support a fetus which will then become a “vegetable.” It might survive even if the mother does not stand the ordeal because of her age. While there are more disadvantages for the Pill being speculated upon than there are actual proofs because of the short time element, Dr. John Rock, an expert on the subject, declares “the dangers of not using the Pill far outweigh those of using it.” His ideas are based on the probable disasters of an overly populated world not able to meet the challenge. When there is enough understanding about human growth by reincarnation until the soul graduates from the necessity of more lives on earth, the world will not have to worry about “the population explosion.” More souls will be graduated to planets in the heavens as they learn how to qualify.




Important Information for the "Called" and "Chosen":

At this time one of the greatest problems is of reaching the Called and “Chosen,” and giving them the information to meet the emergencies expected at the return of “A LITTLE CHILD TO LEAD THEM”. He had to be “caught up” for HIS protection from evil ones who learned about HIS reincarnating as a Child, again to grow up to lead humanity as ever HE has done when going to “sheep I have of other pastures ye know not of.” The Mother from whose arms HE had to be taken for HIS protection during the Last Age, worked hard to find the needed help which will make it possible for HIM to be returned to this dimension.

The Child was “caught up to God and His Throne” for His protection on Easter Sunday, 1955, because of a great dragon personality who stood ready to “swallow up the Child.” Several more attempts to return The Child to this dimension failed because there was not enough help available at the time. In an effort to contact more of the “Called” and “Chosen” to come to her aid, the reincarnate Mother published seven Booklets (these can be found elsewhere on this website). In 1957 Interdenominational Divine Order was established in Boulder, Colorado. In 1960 it moved to Twin Falls, Idaho and in August, 1961, Interdenominational Divine Order, otherwise known as I DO, was incorporated. The Organization was formed to help The reincarnate Mother prepare such a place so God would find some ready to protect Him and He could be returned. Because I DO” researched better understandings, they were Chosen to tell the story and recruit older souls whose karmic rights were in line for a part of the “first” work upon His return.

Specific work of “I DO,” like the Essenes in the time of Jesus, was concentrated in preparation of laborers to meet a need expected at His Advent. The greatest preoccupation was giving information which would help make His Coming possible, and establish safety for Him and His Great Plan. Over the next few years, and with the guidance of the reincarnate Mother, in addition to the seven Booklets she had published, “I DO” published two additional Booklets, as well as eighty-one monthly "Truth" News Letters.

In the late nineteen sixties, Interdenominational Divine Order were “Told” that the publishing work was done for this Age and that they should now await “That Day” when “all eyes SEE” what they were GIVEN to SEE. Since then, no one has been getting anything at all from Above because the world has entered into a period of SILENCE as the Scriptures prophesied would be the case previous to that Great Change all esoteric peoples expect at any moment. Even “I DO” were not GIVEN anything more than they were entrusted with before the period of Silence began, and nothing more will be given until “That Day.”

The reincarnate Mother passed from this plane in 1994, and Interdenominational Divine Order was disbanded. She will again take incarnation and when God will be ready to release His Holy Son on “D Day,” the skies will be filled with the glory of His return. This will be fulfilment of the Third and Final Phase of the “Cosmic Birth.” When “That Day” brings the Advent, it is expected that The Child will be returned to His Mother, and a great machine will start rolling. We can expect The Child to be returned to this dimension “As He Left” and “all eyes will SEE “A Little Child to Lead Them.”




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